Lets get this "ball" rolling. In order to see any kind of professional sports, we have to drive into the city, or worse, to the Maryland side of the beltway. I think it's overdue for the tax money and our expendible incomes to stay in Loudoun and benefit the Loudoun residents. Tired of high taxes or school budget cuts - whatever is on the horizon? Now is your chance to act. GO HOUNDS. Looking forward to 2014.

These are not opposing sides. Potomac Green is full of baseball fans and would very much like to see a team for Loudoun be created (BTW, there is no hounds team waiting in the wings yet except a staff of PR and media people). What we ARE opposed to is this new location.

The plan is to have 200 events per year, 75 nights of fireworks, and lots of concerts. With all the high tech equipment being allowed to operate until 11pm this is a terrible idea for the children that need to go to bed at 8pm to get up for school the next day, as well as the seniors that may be recuperating from serious illnesses and need their rest. These folks live 2500 feet from the arena.

Then there is the traffic issue. There is not 1 person I have spoken to who thinks this location is a good idea (except those involved in this absurdity - watch who responds to this post). Game time: 7pm week nights. Location: Route 7 and Loudoun County Parkway, the ramp that is shared with the traffic merging on from Route 28 with vehicles all coming from work (the east and south). Don’t we have enough traffic on Route 7 at rush hour? Difference between an office building traffic and an event driven traffic situation is this – flex time. Workers stream in and out over a 4 hours period of time while the 10,000 spectators for soccer, baseball and music concerts are all on the exit ramp between 6 and 7 PM.

Baseball USA, yes! A 10,000 person sports and music arena on Route 7 at Loudoun Pkwy exit – NO!

I'm all for baseball in Loudoun, but the One Loudoun site is a horrible location. Traffic woes are certain (even One Loudoun's traffic study admits it), and the stadium's proximity to residential areas will cause large amounts of sound pollution to leak into these previously quiet neighborhoods. Its bad economics too. In order to fit the stadium, One Loudoun is losing 320k square feet of office space, meaning the loss of potentially 1000 jobs that would have filled that space. The original Kincora location was designed for and is much better suited to this stadium.

We second Mr. Anthony's sentiment! GO HOUNDS!

I for one would like to see the stadium where it was suppose to be - Kincora - or another idea...why not move it closer to 606 where the metro is suppose to be, where the properties is already zoned for special activities and have folks from Maryland, Fairfax, etc. use the metro to come see games! If the whole point is about making money, then make the stadium inviting to come to. Putting it on Rt 7 and LoCo Parkway is a BIG MISTAKE. Traffic will be terrible. Do you want to sit in more traffic (think Jiffy Lube Live/Nissan Pav. traffic on 66)? Noise pollution will diminish the lives of those who already live in that area. I guess no one considered the fact that the plan includes fireworks, concerts, etc. Good luck getting to bed at night with all that noise...after you have sat in traffic just trying to get home. And no one has even touched the topic of what it will do to the value of $600,000.00 plus homes that already exist.

I hope someone asks why we are paying 651 thousand dollars per acre to Miller and Smith to put a Sheriffs station at One Loudoun. The property at the HS-8 site was 444 thousand and the no bid Saudi property the BOS sold for 20 million comes to 265 thousand per acre. A few months ago Shawn Williams said the Saudi property was some of the most expensive property in the county my how that changes when it's the Loudoun taxpayer footing the bill. Why isn't this Sheriffs station proferred like other lo-cals do?

If VIP thinks they can build a stadium for both baseball and soccer and have it completed by 2014, I'd like to have whatever they're drinking or smoking. There's no way feasible for any stadium to be conceivably built in that time-line. There has to be a process of zoning permits, land-use approvals, that all have to be vetted out by Loudoun County, first, before the first spade is dug, and, God knows, that process, even streamlined, can still take a considerable amount of time. The 'One Loudoun' location though, is a tragedy waiting to happen, that is, if it's approved. Kincora was and still is the best location for a new baseball stadium in the area, of which monies have already been approved for road infrastructure. I see the whole 'One Loudoun' stadium project going down in flames. By the way, has anyone noticed that the Loudoun Hounds took down their bogus 'countdown clock' off of their official website? I wonder why they did that? I think that VIP and the Loudoun Hounds/Virginia Calvary know that their project is doomed with failure and is on the rocks. People on their staff are just milking paychecks while the money lasts. It's time for VIP to fold up their tent and just go away. They've embarrassed Loudoun County enough, already.

Kincora, by virtu of its location (traffic, increased noise and lights, existing roads and currently undeveloped) is the BEST LOCATION for the stadium as originally planned. I too would like to see a stadium in Loudoun County but not in One Loudoun. To remove hundreds of full-time jobs at One-Loudoun (say tax revenue) to build a stadium there makes no sense. It will be many years before the planned overpasses and such will be completed on Route 7.The Loudoun County Parkway and Route 7 interchange will not be able to safely handle the mass of traffic at the PM rush our plus thousands of fans arriving at the same time. If VIP sports can't get a stadium in a better location in the next year maybe this is not the time or location for a stadium. I second the idea of a location on any undeveloped land near a future stop. This could be a centerpiece for that area and expand the fan base of non-local fans who could use the metro. The use of metro would keep any fans who "overindulged" to have a safe way to get home while keeping our roads safe.

Wherever the stadium is built, not everyone will be happy and they will complain about traffic and noise. Actually, it doesn't matter if it's a small stadium, a gas station or a grocery store- people will complain. Hopefully the people who support the stadium build do not remain silent and stop assuming this will get done because it seems like a great idea- get out and support the stadium and the Hounds!
GO HOUNDS!!!!!!

I attended the meeting on February 19. I thought the Hounds people could have been better prepared to answer the questions of the Planning Commission. I was not impressed by the visual presentation. Where on earth did they get the image of supposedly Rt. 7 with so few cars?

I would love to see and enjoy a sports venue in Loudoun but not at this location. It is hard to imagine all the stadium traffic added to the mix.

Having seen the "artist's rendition" of the stadium corner, surrounded by, I assume, office buildings, I had to ask, WHERE IS THE PARKING FOR THE FANS ?????

And jobs: I heard something like 200. These will be mostly low-paying, seasonal, service jobs held by people who cannot afford to live in this pricey county. Compare that to the professional jobs that have been touted as coming to the One Loudoun Trade Center.

And what about the high-end shops and fine dining restaurants? Will either of these type businesses choose to locate near a noisy stadium? Not likely, sports bars will spring up all over the place and many will fail like many of the Ashburn eateries have done.

If Kincora won't work, there is a terrific location right across Loudoun County Parkway from the Verizon campus. There is lots of open space away from houses and close to the Greenway.

Fetch, please find another home but stay in the County.

As usual, it's a case of NIMBY (Not In My Backyard).
I'm sure no restaurant will want to open in an area where as many as 5,000 people will be at one time.....because it will be noisy. Just how noisy do you think the stadium will be? Have you been to a minor league or Atlantic League stadium? You move 500 ft away from the stadium and you hardly hear anything- they are not building Yankee Stadium here!
Years ago a store was being built right near my neighborhood and the HOA simply went crazy with grief over the plan to build the store- people signed a petition against it saying it would bring child molesting construction workers to the area, the store would be open all night (even though their hours at every other location are 10 PM closing time) and drunks would be hanging around outside all the time and the non stop traffic would get someone killed. After all was said and done, the people I saw in the store most of the time were the ones who complained the most.....see you at the ballpark!

Jim I guess you must have forgotten that the actual capacity, and finally confirmed by the Planning Commission last night is 10,000+. 200 events annually is a 150% increase over what they have at the Nats stadium, talk about intensity of use. Then there is the microbrewery that they left out last night combined with all of the other alcohol related venues and its no wonder why they want a new sheriff station in One Loudoun. Using a pejorative like NIMBY doesn't make your argument any better, it shows that you want to diminish the valid concerns of those opposed to this rezoning.

Citizen,
I guess I understand why Mr. Farren would want to fill the place- he has to make money somehow and the more full the place is the more he will feel comfortable. From what I hear, the PC will likely ask him to cut the amount of concerts in half.
I used to live right near the summer concert venue at Belmont Ridge and could hear the music, at least the bass from it, quite a bit and frankly, it's just like the airplane traffic in Ashburn- after a while you just do not hear it anymore. I believe a compromise will be reached and all parties will be happy.

Potomac Green has over 1000 senior homes. (plus there are several other senior communities around the corner). Because it is a senior community, there are folks suffering from cancer or other critical ailments, some in wheel chairs, or recovering from surgeries. These folks have patios and bedroom windows that are 2500 feet away from potential noise levels of 120 decibels from concerts. Mr. Farren told us the concerts would be symphonies and we won't hear a thing. What scientist would agree to that? We have not been able to find one yet.

What has this country come to when we cannot even allow senior citizens to live peacefully in what may possibly be the last home of their lives, all because people that live no where nearby want entertainment and want it NOW. (or maybe it' s just the almighty dollar talking). And when objections are brought up on these discussion boards, they are referred to as NIMBY's. Didn't anyone's parents teach them any respect?

And by the way, what's the deal with a DEADLINE of 2014? What happens then? They melt into a pile of goo and cannot apply for a baseball franchise? Right now there are no players, no team, so I don't get the deadline argument. Please someone explain that to me? (seriously, I want to know).

Jean,
I think the deadline for 2014 has something to do with the fact that Mr. Farren has been putting out all kinds of money to try to get the ballpark built and he has been at it for at least 3 years already here in Loudoun County. I'm guessing he set the deadline because he wants to move on if it will not get approved here. The team is part of the Atlantic League and, this is a total guess, maybe he loses his franchise rights at some point if he doesn't field a team?

A deadline sort of makes sense when the owner wants to get his business operational before he is in a retirement home himself. Kincorra has been stringing him along for years now, and if you think construction will start soon, I have a bridge you may want to invest in. A person doesn't get enough money to invest in something like this by being a fool. I would take my team somewhere else if Loudoun had been stringing me along pointlessly for this long because everyone wants it to be close, but not close to them.

And what restaurant would want to be located next to a stadium with 5000 people on a regular basis? Any restaurant with any sense. Businesses make money from people, being near large concentrations of people is very good.

And therein lies the root of this whole mess Paul, there is no team. If Kincora has been stringing Farren along then it would be fair and accurate to say that Mr. Farren has been stringing Loudoun County along for years.

Here is what Commissioner Helena Syska (Sterling) said at the public hearing this past Tuesday: “I do have a question that I would like answered tonight regarding who the Hounds are. I hear about the corporate structure. I have heard from people tonight who have prominent positions with the organization and have titles but the question I have is where are the players? Where are the players? Because this idea has been around for at least 10 years and I don’t know how minor league teams are built. Is it you wait for a site to be approved and then you get the people? Are there players out there somewhere? I have seen a lot of PR with the corporate people but I don’t see any players. I don’t hear of any players. I don’t know how that team will be formed, and honestly why they haven’t played anywhere else.”

I wish that someone would get Bob Farren to produce actual documents that prove that his organization has a formal agreement with the Atlantic League. Bob Farren doesn't have any documentation that his group has been accepted as even potential members of the Atlantic League. Have they had discussions? Sure, yes, they have, but they have nothing in writing which shows that they've got a lock on a team for Loudoun County. Bob Farren has been trying to pull the wool over people in Loudoun County for far too long. It's time for the truth to come out! Every Loudoun County Board Supervisor has to be put on notice, too, that there's an FBI investigation into Bob Farren's 'donations' to every single one of their campaigns, as well. Apparently the FBI is onto Bob Farren trying to buy votes for 'One Loudoun Stadium'. How's that all working out? Most people don't have a clue about the FBI investigating Bob Farren, but the Atlantic League knows all about it. The whole 'Loudoun Hounds' deal looks more DOA than ever before. What a flim-flam smoke and mirrors organization! I'm sure that the Loudoun County Planning Commission, which couldn't plan their way out of the wine cellar at Tuscarora Mill Restaurant, didn't have a clue about the FBI investigation, or that Bob Farren doesn't have any formal legal agreement with the Atlantic League to put a team in Loudoun County. Loudoun County Planning Commissioner Helena Syska (Sterling) was right on target! The Loudoun Hounds are a complete farce!

Can you smell that smell.
The more we learn the stronger the odor gets.
We are going to pay how much into the Ashburn interchange and now Gloucestor which I thought Kincora got a loan to do is going to be paid for with public funds?

Joe, the whole thing with Bob Farren and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds REALLY stinks. Kincora was the place to go as far as the stadium issue is concerned. I, for one, would love to see the stadium be built at Kincora, since it already has the roads and infrastructure approved. Plus, Kincora is at a perfect location, right at 28 and 7, too!

Web Junkyy - Do some investigating on Bob Farren and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds and you'll see how nefarious his operation really is. I would also like to know what ever happened to a gentleman named John Horshok who once was the driving force for getting the stadium built at Kincora. Mr. Horshok seemed to be a man of great principal who wanted to make a good situation happen for building a stadium at Kincora and getting a team. I'm quite sure that Mr. Horshok had the common sense to leave Bob Farren's carnival operation he calls, VIP, and watch the disaster unfold from the sidelines. There's two weeks for all of the bad things that Bob Farren has done in Loudoun County to come out into the sunshine of the public. The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors need to be put on notice, regarding Bob Farren, and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds. Enough of his parlor games with people in Loudoun County. It's time for Bob Farren to take his snake oil to some other place for him to try to sell it. People in Loudoun County are getting worn out from Bob Farren's deceitful actions.

Wow Sherry, I don't know who you are, but I LIKE your spunk! Plan on attending the March 25th Public Hearing at Farmwell Elementary School, are you?

How many others will be going to the meeting? Or, do people plan on staying at home that Monday night and let this travesty unfold before we can do anything about it?

Web Junkyy - I'd like to think that if we have a ton of people opposing the 'One Loudoun Stadium' project, that we can hopefully have the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors to vote against it and to send Bob Farren, VIP, the Loudoun Hounds, and Virginia Calvary, all collectively packing. Kincora was and still is the best place, for now, to put a new stadium. I'd be a very strong advocate to build a new stadium near a projected stop along Metro's new Silver Line, too. But Kincora is a project that is in place and hopefully a stadium can be build there, and fast-tracked, so that it can be open by 2015. Bob Farren and VIP tried to buy votes for his projects, by donating heavily to each Loudoun County Board of Supervisor's campaign, this past election cycle. Well now the FBI is doing an investigation into Bob Farren and his nefarious ways in Loudoun County and we need to put the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors on notice that they can't rubber stamp 'One Loudoun' for baseball, soccer, concerts, fireworks or whatever kind of event they can think of hosting there. Bob Farren needs to be put on notice that his potential illegal activities need to end in Loudoun County. Bob Farren needs to pack up his 'smoke and mirrors' clap-trap operation and move his carnival of disaster somewhere else!

I've heard from a very reliable source in the Loudoun County Government Center, that an Alexandria attorney has submitted a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) Request, to every Loudoun County Supervisor, and, also, every member of the Loudoun County Planning Commission, as well, requesting any and all information regarding the Loudoun Hounds, and VIP Sports Entertainment.

Someone's apparently on the warpath to expose Bob Farren, the Loudoun Hounds, and VIP Sports Entertainment to be not as truthful to the public in Loudoun County as we have all been led to believe. I hope that the FOIA request also exposes the seemingly underhanded and deceitful operation that Bob Farren has been running in Loudoun County for years now, to the extent that he's got Scott York and every Loudoun County supervisor completely hoodwinked!

The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors need to wake up before their 'house of cards' comes crashing down on them with their association with Bob Farren, as he tried to 'buy' their votes by donating $67,000.00 to their campaigns last fall.

I don't know anything about an FBI investigation regarding Bob Farren's business practices, but I hope that the rumor is true and the FBI closes up his seemingly illegal operation, be it the Loudoun Hounds and VIP Sports Entertainment, for good.

I'm sure there are people who support sports in Loudoun County, as I do, but let's get it right instead of dealing with Bob Farren! Bob Farren has got to go away, now!

Yes, Bob Farren tried to buy the votes of each supervisor from the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors, but that's how business in Loudoun County is run, through the 'good ole boy' and 'good ole girl' network. Did Bob Farren and his thugs break any laws, well, that remains to be seen, but I agree with Jim, I sure hope so, because Bob Farren needs to put 'Fetch' (Loudoun Hounds mascot) in the traveling kennel and get out of Loudoun County. I hope that the FOIA request brings to light all of the supposedly nefarious things that Bob Farren has been doing in dealing with the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors. Voters need to hold each supervisor accountable for how they've dealt with Bob Farren and VIP Sports Entertainment. Voters need to vote out the bad eggs who have sided with Bob Farren. I plan on being at Farmwell Station Middle School, on Monday, and the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors are sure going to get an earful of complaints regarding the proposed folly called 'One Loudoun Stadium', that's for sure!

Is the hearing regarding the Don Quixote-like illegal folly of 'One Loudoun Stadium' scheduled for this evening at Farmville Middle School still "on", despite the snow? Or, has it been possibly rescheduled? Does anyone know?

I believe the meeting is still on.

at 6 tonight.

The meeting is still on for this evening and people better get there early as there is supposed to possibly be quite a crowd showing up, both for, but even more against One Loudoun Stadium.

Enough is enough, and Scott York and his gang need to be put on notice, tonight, that we're not going to take it anymore!

People of Loudoun County are tired of the mess that Bob Farren has stirred up, the angst that he has brought on so many, and his total deceitful tactics in dealing with each member of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors.

Scott York, and every member of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors should be ashamed at how they have also treated the public, with over disdain, whenever there has ever been any legitimate questions involving the pie-in-the-sky One Loudoun Stadium project.

There's going to be more pissed off people at Farmwell Station, tonight, than Loudoun Hounds supporters, that's for sure.