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Opposing Sides Prepare for Ballpark Hearing

Opponents and supporters of the proposed One Loudoun stadium at One Loudoun organize.

The proposed stadium at One Loudoun that would serve as home field for professional baseball and soccer teams goes to a public hearing before the Loudoun Planning Commission today, and both supporters and opponents plan to express themselves.

One Loudoun developers Miller & Smith and North American Sekisui House LLC requested the land use changes to consider alternatives. The team once had hoped to start play in 2012, but now is targeting a 2014 start.

Some residents who live near the proposed stadium site, particularly those in Potomac Green have formed an opposition group called No Stadium on Route 7, the members of which plan to speak at the hearing, which begins at 6 p.m. at the Loudoun County Government Center.

The Hounds have called for a 4:45 p.m. rally in support of the stadium ahead of the hearing.

If approved, a new Northern American Soccer League team called Virginia Cavalry FC will also play at the ballpark.

Jim February 21, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Citizen, I guess I understand why Mr. Farren would want to fill the place- he has to make money somehow and the more full the place is the more he will feel comfortable. From what I hear, the PC will likely ask him to cut the amount of concerts in half. I used to live right near the summer concert venue at Belmont Ridge and could hear the music, at least the bass from it, quite a bit and frankly, it's just like the airplane traffic in Ashburn- after a while you just do not hear it anymore. I believe a compromise will be reached and all parties will be happy.
Jackieh February 21, 2013 at 09:58 PM
There is an ideal location, a huge vacant parcel of land across LC Parkway from the Verizon campus. This is close to the Greenway and the planned metro stop. I have no idea if this is feasible but One Loudoun is absolutely the wrong location for a stadium. And why will it be necessary to have a sheriffs station unless there is an expectation of a huge increase in crime? Hello stadium, sports bars, soccer hooligans, goodbye fine dining, upscale shopping, parkland. And what about the taxpayers being stuck with huge bills for infrastructure? Proffers? What are they and when will they be delivered?
Jackieh February 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM
This isn't going to be a small stadium. And I will be the last person to complain about a Trader Joes and a few fine dining spots. A gas station will be ok so I won't have to wait in line at Costco. I will complain about the totally inadequate infrastructure. And, BTW Jim, since you appear to be knowledgable about the proposed stadium at One Loudoun, where are the fans going to park since there are tall buildings surrounding the stadium except on the Route 7 side? In any space within walking distance?
SeasonedCitizen February 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM
Jim, you have a unique gift if in fact you are able to simply tune out a multi-hour concert, and as for the aircraft traffic everyone knows that this far out from the runway it lasts for seconds not hours. Does Mr. Farren have the "right" to make money or do homeowners have a right or at least a reasonable expectation that they can live in their homes in peace and quiet? The Summer concert series you mention will be dwarfed in comparison to a 10,000 person venue, and the concerts at the country club could be heard inside homes 2.5 miles away in Potomac Green. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one, I have read all of the Kincora documentation and correspondence as well as everything associated with this rezoning. If One Loudoun and the Hounds were truly interested in full disclosure they would post all of the original source documentation just like the NoStadiumOn7.org folks did.
Jackieh February 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Jim: I have never been to a minor league baseball game BUT, as a former Brit, I have attended many, many soccer games. Go Man U!!! They may call it the Hounds stadium, but soccer will be there long before the Hounds even has a team--if at all. This is not a NIMBY issue on my part. I welcome One Loudoun World Trade Center with all that was promised and as it was planned. And I am not convinced Kincora would be the best location; again because of roads. BUT, Kincora has been zoned for a stadium and One Loudoun hasn't.
Jackieh February 21, 2013 at 10:15 PM
And what happens if, God forbid, the stadium in approved, built, and is a failure? Who will be stuck with an eyesore on the corner of 7 and LC Parkway? Hello taxpayers.
Jackieh February 21, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I live near the Ashburn Village Pavilion and hear the concerts well into the night. The difference is that here they don't occur every week. The planes fly over in seconds, concerts are unrelenting for hours. The concerts and soccer crowds would be noise pollution and inescapable unless one leaves the area.
Jim February 22, 2013 at 01:36 AM
Citizen, I guess we'll leave it at that- we shall agree to disagree. I appreciate you keeping the discussion civil as many posters like to resort to name calling etc. I truly hope this works out for everybody- I hope the stadium and team are successful and I hope they don't bother you and your neighbors much at all.
Jean Rafaniello Beres February 23, 2013 at 12:21 AM
Potomac Green has over 1000 senior homes. (plus there are several other senior communities around the corner). Because it is a senior community, there are folks suffering from cancer or other critical ailments, some in wheel chairs, or recovering from surgeries. These folks have patios and bedroom windows that are 2500 feet away from potential noise levels of 120 decibels from concerts. Mr. Farren told us the concerts would be symphonies and we won't hear a thing. What scientist would agree to that? We have not been able to find one yet. What has this country come to when we cannot even allow senior citizens to live peacefully in what may possibly be the last home of their lives, all because people that live no where nearby want entertainment and want it NOW. (or maybe it' s just the almighty dollar talking). And when objections are brought up on these discussion boards, they are referred to as NIMBY's. Didn't anyone's parents teach them any respect? And by the way, what's the deal with a DEADLINE of 2014? What happens then? They melt into a pile of goo and cannot apply for a baseball franchise? Right now there are no players, no team, so I don't get the deadline argument. Please someone explain that to me? (seriously, I want to know).
Jim February 23, 2013 at 03:46 AM
Jean, I think the deadline for 2014 has something to do with the fact that Mr. Farren has been putting out all kinds of money to try to get the ballpark built and he has been at it for at least 3 years already here in Loudoun County. I'm guessing he set the deadline because he wants to move on if it will not get approved here. The team is part of the Atlantic League and, this is a total guess, maybe he loses his franchise rights at some point if he doesn't field a team?
Paul February 23, 2013 at 06:07 PM
A deadline sort of makes sense when the owner wants to get his business operational before he is in a retirement home himself. Kincorra has been stringing him along for years now, and if you think construction will start soon, I have a bridge you may want to invest in. A person doesn't get enough money to invest in something like this by being a fool. I would take my team somewhere else if Loudoun had been stringing me along pointlessly for this long because everyone wants it to be close, but not close to them. And what restaurant would want to be located next to a stadium with 5000 people on a regular basis? Any restaurant with any sense. Businesses make money from people, being near large concentrations of people is very good.
SeasonedCitizen February 23, 2013 at 06:49 PM
And therein lies the root of this whole mess Paul, there is no team. If Kincora has been stringing Farren along then it would be fair and accurate to say that Mr. Farren has been stringing Loudoun County along for years. Here is what Commissioner Helena Syska (Sterling) said at the public hearing this past Tuesday: “I do have a question that I would like answered tonight regarding who the Hounds are. I hear about the corporate structure. I have heard from people tonight who have prominent positions with the organization and have titles but the question I have is where are the players? Where are the players? Because this idea has been around for at least 10 years and I don’t know how minor league teams are built. Is it you wait for a site to be approved and then you get the people? Are there players out there somewhere? I have seen a lot of PR with the corporate people but I don’t see any players. I don’t hear of any players. I don’t know how that team will be formed, and honestly why they haven’t played anywhere else.”
Sherry Henderson March 11, 2013 at 04:18 PM
I wish that someone would get Bob Farren to produce actual documents that prove that his organization has a formal agreement with the Atlantic League. Bob Farren doesn't have any documentation that his group has been accepted as even potential members of the Atlantic League. Have they had discussions? Sure, yes, they have, but they have nothing in writing which shows that they've got a lock on a team for Loudoun County. Bob Farren has been trying to pull the wool over people in Loudoun County for far too long. It's time for the truth to come out! Every Loudoun County Board Supervisor has to be put on notice, too, that there's an FBI investigation into Bob Farren's 'donations' to every single one of their campaigns, as well. Apparently the FBI is onto Bob Farren trying to buy votes for 'One Loudoun Stadium'. How's that all working out? Most people don't have a clue about the FBI investigating Bob Farren, but the Atlantic League knows all about it. The whole 'Loudoun Hounds' deal looks more DOA than ever before. What a flim-flam smoke and mirrors organization! I'm sure that the Loudoun County Planning Commission, which couldn't plan their way out of the wine cellar at Tuscarora Mill Restaurant, didn't have a clue about the FBI investigation, or that Bob Farren doesn't have any formal legal agreement with the Atlantic League to put a team in Loudoun County. Loudoun County Planning Commissioner Helena Syska (Sterling) was right on target! The Loudoun Hounds are a complete farce!
joe brewer March 11, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Can you smell that smell. The more we learn the stronger the odor gets. We are going to pay how much into the Ashburn interchange and now Gloucestor which I thought Kincora got a loan to do is going to be paid for with public funds?
Sherry Henderson March 11, 2013 at 05:53 PM
Joe, the whole thing with Bob Farren and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds REALLY stinks. Kincora was the place to go as far as the stadium issue is concerned. I, for one, would love to see the stadium be built at Kincora, since it already has the roads and infrastructure approved. Plus, Kincora is at a perfect location, right at 28 and 7, too!
SeasonedCitizen March 11, 2013 at 08:01 PM
Sherry that's the first I have heard of any sort of investigation. I don't think the FBI will confirm that they are conducting an active investigation but I believe I read somewhere that they were looking into another issue in Loudoun a year or two ago. I tried email and calling the Atlantic League directly and they are apparently so tired of people asking about the Hounds they no longer respond. Do you have anything you can reference as to the investigation?
Web Junkyy March 11, 2013 at 09:14 PM
Oh no, Kincora was SUPPOSED to pay for the roads, but Loudoun applied for a VTIB loan instead and yes the taxpayers will be paying that loan back with the 'special assessments'. See http://www.virginiadot.org/newsroom/statewide/2012/gov._mcdonnell_announces_virginia58410.asp. This way they get what would have been a bond, but no voting required! Ah, but you can only get one of these special loans if you have a FAST TRACKED special project. Hmmm. So maybe it's not about baseball at all! Maybe it's about an $80 million loan approval that would expire in 2014 if we don't actually build something somewhere nearby. Or maybe a brand new loan application for the Ashburn Village overpass? This makes a lot more sense than very minor league baseball with no economic advantages, and lots of negative impact on residents. Why would they risk losing their elected seats over it? It's not baseball.
Sherry Henderson March 11, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Web Junkyy - Do some investigating on Bob Farren and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds and you'll see how nefarious his operation really is. I would also like to know what ever happened to a gentleman named John Horshok who once was the driving force for getting the stadium built at Kincora. Mr. Horshok seemed to be a man of great principal who wanted to make a good situation happen for building a stadium at Kincora and getting a team. I'm quite sure that Mr. Horshok had the common sense to leave Bob Farren's carnival operation he calls, VIP, and watch the disaster unfold from the sidelines. There's two weeks for all of the bad things that Bob Farren has done in Loudoun County to come out into the sunshine of the public. The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors need to be put on notice, regarding Bob Farren, and VIP and the Loudoun Hounds. Enough of his parlor games with people in Loudoun County. It's time for Bob Farren to take his snake oil to some other place for him to try to sell it. People in Loudoun County are getting worn out from Bob Farren's deceitful actions.
Web Junkyy March 11, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Wow Sherry, I don't know who you are, but I LIKE your spunk! Plan on attending the March 25th Public Hearing at Farmwell Elementary School, are you?
Sherry Henderson March 11, 2013 at 09:40 PM
Yes, I plan on being there. Enough is enough. We need to let EVERY Loudoun County Board of Supervisor know that One Loudoun is NOT the place to build a baseball stadium. Kincora would be an excellent choice, right now, but if not there, maybe it could be built close to a future Metro station along the Silver Line. I'm still attached to the idea that Kincora just makes more sense, to me. Tell all your friends to show up and be heard on March 25th!
Sherry Henderson March 13, 2013 at 01:48 PM
How many others will be going to the meeting? Or, do people plan on staying at home that Monday night and let this travesty unfold before we can do anything about it?
Web Junkyy March 14, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Have no idea, but there seems to be a lot more buzz about it all of a sudden. Is it going to make any difference if 1000 people showed up? I'd like to think so.
Sherry Henderson March 15, 2013 at 04:24 PM
Web Junkyy - I'd like to think that if we have a ton of people opposing the 'One Loudoun Stadium' project, that we can hopefully have the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors to vote against it and to send Bob Farren, VIP, the Loudoun Hounds, and Virginia Calvary, all collectively packing. Kincora was and still is the best place, for now, to put a new stadium. I'd be a very strong advocate to build a new stadium near a projected stop along Metro's new Silver Line, too. But Kincora is a project that is in place and hopefully a stadium can be build there, and fast-tracked, so that it can be open by 2015. Bob Farren and VIP tried to buy votes for his projects, by donating heavily to each Loudoun County Board of Supervisor's campaign, this past election cycle. Well now the FBI is doing an investigation into Bob Farren and his nefarious ways in Loudoun County and we need to put the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors on notice that they can't rubber stamp 'One Loudoun' for baseball, soccer, concerts, fireworks or whatever kind of event they can think of hosting there. Bob Farren needs to be put on notice that his potential illegal activities need to end in Loudoun County. Bob Farren needs to pack up his 'smoke and mirrors' clap-trap operation and move his carnival of disaster somewhere else!
Jim Miller March 21, 2013 at 04:09 PM
I've heard from a very reliable source in the Loudoun County Government Center, that an Alexandria attorney has submitted a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) Request, to every Loudoun County Supervisor, and, also, every member of the Loudoun County Planning Commission, as well, requesting any and all information regarding the Loudoun Hounds, and VIP Sports Entertainment. Someone's apparently on the warpath to expose Bob Farren, the Loudoun Hounds, and VIP Sports Entertainment to be not as truthful to the public in Loudoun County as we have all been led to believe. I hope that the FOIA request also exposes the seemingly underhanded and deceitful operation that Bob Farren has been running in Loudoun County for years now, to the extent that he's got Scott York and every Loudoun County supervisor completely hoodwinked! The Loudoun County Board of Supervisors need to wake up before their 'house of cards' comes crashing down on them with their association with Bob Farren, as he tried to 'buy' their votes by donating $67,000.00 to their campaigns last fall. I don't know anything about an FBI investigation regarding Bob Farren's business practices, but I hope that the rumor is true and the FBI closes up his seemingly illegal operation, be it the Loudoun Hounds and VIP Sports Entertainment, for good. I'm sure there are people who support sports in Loudoun County, as I do, but let's get it right instead of dealing with Bob Farren! Bob Farren has got to go away, now!
Sherry Henderson March 21, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Yes, Bob Farren tried to buy the votes of each supervisor from the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors, but that's how business in Loudoun County is run, through the 'good ole boy' and 'good ole girl' network. Did Bob Farren and his thugs break any laws, well, that remains to be seen, but I agree with Jim, I sure hope so, because Bob Farren needs to put 'Fetch' (Loudoun Hounds mascot) in the traveling kennel and get out of Loudoun County. I hope that the FOIA request brings to light all of the supposedly nefarious things that Bob Farren has been doing in dealing with the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors. Voters need to hold each supervisor accountable for how they've dealt with Bob Farren and VIP Sports Entertainment. Voters need to vote out the bad eggs who have sided with Bob Farren. I plan on being at Farmwell Station Middle School, on Monday, and the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors are sure going to get an earful of complaints regarding the proposed folly called 'One Loudoun Stadium', that's for sure!
Sherry Henderson March 25, 2013 at 03:41 PM
Is the hearing regarding the Don Quixote-like illegal folly of 'One Loudoun Stadium' scheduled for this evening at Farmville Middle School still "on", despite the snow? Or, has it been possibly rescheduled? Does anyone know?
Web Junkyy March 25, 2013 at 05:39 PM
I believe the meeting is still on.
Dusty Smith (Editor) March 25, 2013 at 05:44 PM
At this point it appears to still be on. If anything changes, I'll update the story at this link: http://ashburn.patch.com/articles/one-loudoun-stadium-hearing-at-farmwell-station-tonight
joe brewer March 25, 2013 at 06:30 PM
at 6 tonight.
Jim Miller March 25, 2013 at 07:14 PM
The meeting is still on for this evening and people better get there early as there is supposed to possibly be quite a crowd showing up, both for, but even more against One Loudoun Stadium. Enough is enough, and Scott York and his gang need to be put on notice, tonight, that we're not going to take it anymore! People of Loudoun County are tired of the mess that Bob Farren has stirred up, the angst that he has brought on so many, and his total deceitful tactics in dealing with each member of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors. Scott York, and every member of the Loudoun County Board of Supervisors should be ashamed at how they have also treated the public, with over disdain, whenever there has ever been any legitimate questions involving the pie-in-the-sky One Loudoun Stadium project. There's going to be more pissed off people at Farmwell Station, tonight, than Loudoun Hounds supporters, that's for sure.

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